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5 Good Reasons to Hire a Financial Advisor and 2 Bad Ones

March 7, 2012 by Average Joe 15 Comments

The decision to hire an advisor to help with your financial planning isn’t a step I recommend lightly. I’ve been lucky: over 16 years of practice I was hired mostly for good reasons, although some others were….not so much.




Most people don’t need a financial advisor.

I’d tell individuals before they hired me that 90 percent of what I did, they could do themselves. My job was to guide them through sometimes stormy financial waters. As a bonus, I’d save them time and money by already knowing tricks they could probably find online. My staff would fill out annoying paperwork, and we had access to the best professionals in related fields. If you needed good advice, I either could provide it or knew how to find it fast.

In fact, at some points I was more of a concierge than a financial advisor….while most of my contacts were finance-related, I knew good babysitters and how to get a table at the top restaurants in town!

Here are five good reasons to hire a financial advisor:

 

1) You don’t have time.

I worked with many successful people who could have easily completed their plans alone. Most of my clients were engineers or executives working for Microsoft and Chrysler. These were intelligent people (often financially savvy, too).

They recognized that they needed a good plan drafted that they could examine and sign off on. They also needed someone to facilitate the legwork. It had to be someone knowledgeable who had their back. They needed to be able to review everything on a plane or between meetings.

 

2) You aren’t going to look at the stuff yourself.

Some of my clients were smart people, but in completely different areas. I had a client who was a very well-known artist. He needed to be forced to have consistent meetings about his meetings. Without me, he wouldn’t ever review how he was doing.

 

3) You don’t want a full financial education.

This type of client would sometimes frustrate me, but I had a large number of them as clients. Different from my artist and executive clients who were generally well educated, financially savvy people, these clients would just rather pay me to do it.

These clients were very happy to meet with me and talk financial planning. They’d listen and nod. I was pretty sure that they were getting the basics about what we were talking about. I tried to keep it entertaining, because I knew they hated being in my office.

Some were looking for the concierge treatment. For those people, we had client dinners, good coffee in the lobby and occasionally went to sporting events or concerts. They didn’t care about how the money was managed, as long as it was done with as little input on their end as possible.

These clients sometimes scared me, because if things went wrong, they had no idea why and didn’t want to learn from anyone but me. If this sounds like you, it’s better to hire a good advisor than wreck your financial ship because nobody’s at the helm.

 

4) You want a smart coach in your corner…

…to steer your plan in the right direction.

Some of my clients I knew were only going to be with me for a short time. My job was to educate them how to do it themselves. Some advisors won’t do this. I was happy to help. I liked talking strategy anyway, so if I had a willing client who was coachable, I’d take them through the process. As a bonus, I handled most of the annoying parts (like filling out Roth IRA forms) because they were paying me a fee. It wasn’t why they wanted me as an advisor, but it was definitely icing on the cake.

 

5) You want an ally to point out flaws in your strategy.

This was probably my least profitable type of relationship, but the one I appreciated the most. I had a few Do It Yourself investors who already had a complete strategy and just wanted to hire me for a couple of hours a year so they could tell me their strategy. I always had questions, then feedback, and nearly always, adjustments I’d recommend.

One client, Paul, said he specifically hired me because our philosophies clashed and he wanted to make sure his strategy looked good from the other point of view. He thought about his plan so often that he usually had a winning approach, even though I definitely would have rarely completed the plan the way he did.

 

 

There are a couple of important reasons NOT to hire an advisor:

 

1) You want someone to do it for you.

There’s a subtle difference between this person and the one in #3 above. The person in #3 was happy to meet with me every few months and talk about money. They wanted some small amount of “here’s why we’re doing this.”

Then there’s the person who just wanted “take this cash and make it work.”

I care about my former clients. I never can care about your money more than you do. I’m the money babysitter, you’re the parent. Act the part.

 

2) You want to day trade with a partner.

I had two clients who could never get through their skull that I was very happy that they day traded…but leave me out of it.

Initially we’d separate the portfolio into two sections: the “long term investment” portion, that I’d help steer, and then the “play money” portion that they’d day trade. I’d make clear that they were on their own with the play money account.

Invariably, these two clients would call in a panic and tell me that Jim Cramer had just said something on television and they needed to sell…but what did I think first? Should they sell? Should the go contrarian and buy more? Could I look up some charts for them? Maybe call a couple fund managers and ask their opinion off the record?

No thank you.

The math on my practice worked this way: 150 families, all of whom paid for and should demand my attention.

If I met with each client on average 3 times per year for an hour and a half, that meant 675 hours of meetings. Additionally, I’d call each client twice a year minimum and talk for 20 minutes (assuming there weren’t urgent financial events afoot or you hadn’t called me first). That was another 50 hours.

We won’t even approach all of the emails I sent or returned daily. Remember that I mentioned Microsoft employees? Those people love email.

After 10 hours of preparation time a week and 10 hours of strategy/internal and analysis time (not to mention any marketing we were doing), that left 30 hours for client meetings. After holidays, I worked about 48 weeks a year.

Where was I going to find time to day trade your account?

 

 

That’s my story. Now it’s your turn: have you interviewed advisors? How did the meeting go? What did you like/didn’t like about their approach?

 

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5 Jaw-Dropping Financial Advisor Interview Questions

January 24, 2012 by Average Joe 14 Comments

Some people need professional help–not the type I’ve been told to find–but financial help. I’ve met many of these people firsthand. Over my years working as an advisor, it was difficult watching people walk into my office grossly underprepared for a meeting with an advisor know what to expect. I could tell by the look in their eyes that they hoped I was honest and actually knew what I was doing.

I know the look because it’s the same one on my face when I’m talking to an auto mechanic.

Luckily, you’ve come to the right place. There are five questions that are important to ask a financial advisor.

But is that all I need to ask? Five questions?

Nope. Hopefully these start you on the right track to building a dialogue with the advisor about your personal financial circumstances and dreams.

Whether you’ve found the name of an advisor from a friend (good idea), by their reputation (scary), or even through an internet, mailing or yellow pages search (most frightening), you’ll want to still ask these specific financial advisor interview questions. You have seen in the media that well respected names with degrees, certifications and mountains of clout have ended up as bad people. Although these questions won’t make sure that you won’t get ripped off, they will give you a better idea regarding your advisors methods and whether they’ll fit with your long term and short term plans.

  1. Tell me about your education. Listen to their experiences, any testing they’ve taken and professional credentials, such as a Certified Financial Planner (CFP), Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC) or one of a host of other designations. For “vanilla” financial planning, the two listed above (CFP and ChFC) are the two broad certificate designations. Others, such as a Chartered Retirement Planning Counselor (CRPC) or Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) either are more narrow designations or focus on one aspect of a financial plan.
  2. How long have you been practicing? Suze Orman recommends hiring an advisor who’s been practicing for at least ten years. Back when I started, I thought that advice was complete baloney. Once I’d been an advisor for ten years, I completely agreed with her. Why? Because there are so many nuances and situations that are new in the wide world of financial planning that for the first ten years you’re often running into brand new situations. Your financial life is important enough that you shouldn’t have your paid professional help “practicing” on you.
  3. How does your financial planning process operate? Here’s the scoop: you can throw investment darts as well as any advisor, so you aren’t hiring him for that purpose. People hire an advisor not for the 80 percent of stuff you can do easily yourself, but for the 20 percent that he can do with far more accuracy and efficiency than you.
    • The base of any advisor’s work should be encompassed in a written financial plan that’s backed up by hard data. You’ll use this to mark your progress toward your goals and to hold the advisor accountable to their promises.
    • This plan can only be written if you’ve taken home some type of survey about your expenses, income, assets and liabilities.
    • Finally, you don’t want an advisor who’s only concerned with your assets (unless that’s all you’re concerned about….but I dare anyone to tell me that your budget, estate plan, insurance needs and tax situation don’t all tie into your asset mix). Your plan should place weight on those areas of your financial house that need work now. If you’re talking budget and he’s talking Roth IRA, you know it isn’t a match.
  4. Who will be working with me? In larger practices, experienced advisors often have less-knowledgeable associates who work with some clients. I don’t want to hire one advisor only to find out later that I’ll end up working with another. Make sure you know how the relationship will work before entering into an agreement. The advisor might also have specialists that help out in areas outside their knowledge base. Ask how referral arrangements work between the advisor and any other professionals they recommend.
  5. How are you compensated? Advisors are paid three different ways:5 Financial Advisor Interview Questions
    • Fee only. Some people prefer these advisors because they’re only paid to dispense advice. You decide whether to take it or not and generally implement solutions on your own. Although I understand this thinking in a perfect world, I’ll tell you that the people who hired me did so NOT because they weren’t smart enough to plan on their own. On the contrary, I worked with people who were CEOs and CFOs of corporations, experts in taxation, engineers and entrepreneurs. These people had drive. I learned that they didn’t just hire me for knowledge. They hired me to make sure they took the time to implement the plan.
    • Fee based. These advisors charge a fee for planning, but may charge an additional fee for managing assets OR receive commissions for some products. I was this type of planner, charging anywhere from $750 per year to $5,000 per year, then collecting both fees and commissions. Critics say these types of advisors “double dip” on charges, and you can end up paying large sums of money. That’s all correct, if my client wanted it that way. I ALWAYS told my clients how to avoid my fees and commissions, and often helped them set up accounts at other places. Once again, it depended on the client. My job was to identify strengths and weaknesses. If they wanted me to babysit their money or there was a product through me that helped better than those elsewhere….I was paid for that additional support.
    • Commission only.  These advisors will perform financial planning analysis for free, and are only paid when you implement solutions through them. Critics (like me) believe that these plans have to be slanted toward the methods supported by the advisor’s company, because that’s the only way they’re going to bring home a paycheck. I must say, though, that I knew some commission-only advisors who were top people in their field. They would only support a product they sold in the correct situation, and would actively refer people away from their product if it didn’t fit the need.

As you can see, it’s difficult to find a “perfect” set of financial advisor interview questions for your needs. But by asking these five questions, you’ll gain an understanding of the process the advisor uses, their fee structure and how their practice operates. You’ll also see the advisor’s personal history and gain an understanding of their personal feelings. This is a good start. Once you’ve asked these five questions, move toward your goals and find out how you like the advisor’s answers. It’s like hiring a coach: if you don’t listen to them, it was a big fat waste of money.

Want more questions? Try these resources:

NAPFA.org (National Association of Personal Financial Advisors) How to Find a Financial Advisor

CFP.net (Certified Financial Planner Board of Standards) Questions to Ask When Choosing a Financial Planner (.pdf document)

Photo attribution: Icon Checklist (Wikimedia Commons, Ckepper), Discussion (Wikimedia Commons, HBS1908)

That’s my story, now it’s your turn: have you interviewed an advisor before? Any good questions or stories from that experience that our readers might like?

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